Seminar: Big Sur Language and the unconscious, part one
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Within a single lifetime our physical environment has been changed almost beyond
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recognition. Yet there's been little corresponding change in how we as
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individuals relate to the world and experience reality.
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New tools and techniques of the human potentiality and presenting to
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us an exhilarating and dangerous frontier renewing in our minds the old
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questions what are the limits of human ability the boundaries of the human
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experience. What does it mean to be a human being.
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Seminar big surgery a series of discussions focusing attention on the front tiers of
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human development produced by K x K x FM in San Francisco in cooperation
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with the Institute of Big Sur California Center which studies those trends and
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religion philosophy and the behavioral sciences which emphasize the potentialities of
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human existence. This week we present a third of a series of discussions from an excellent
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seminar led by Dr. Rollo me on the unconscious
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This week we present highlights from the session on language of the dimensions of
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consciousness. Here now is Dr. Rollo May as he met in session with his seminar at the
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Aslan Institute.
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Well I wanted to talk about it.
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Very very important to me and I hope that
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we can talk about it together
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because we're going to talk about how we live in
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the middle and then the net with the
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word method on the part of the
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Spectacle Man write the book that the point that we're going to
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write about the errors of the foreign policy
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in the paper. But the net meaning it now I think
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they're working their way
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and have our own
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language and
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the language as an expression of the
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blocking ethic of the life
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the public. Now if I were the
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experience of the mention of my
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life that I want to do
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more than talk about the one thing
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then in court I would
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already have lost because I would be putting it right and I would have been
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a total experience. Rational
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to her till
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the rafters are clinic up and do then I would have
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lost. I wouldn't be able to communicate it because I'm talking in an
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unconscious level are
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you. You were carpet in order to even if you were going to go to every
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talk about creativity and can we talk in.
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The language by which I can express I'm conscious experience and that experience of
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the language by which I can express that and
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that the thing which I can't do interact with. The myth of the
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language in which I
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talk about the actual thing that you can do in order
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to talk about here
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and our whole culture carries over to the phenomenon
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that an individual whom I can identify with
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the word that
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you don't have to but
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the nation of Iraq with the Atlantic idea
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I think that. I had a very important when
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that collective level and
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that particular kind of an air
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we're making from our collective
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level. Do have architects and they have central pattern
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their language for others
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experience the language and math.
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To work together. The Greek word
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meaning will lean to drawn together
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to throw together and the meaning of it in ancient
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Greek to do with the coin that you put together and
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bring it you fit together and the thing had meaning only when all that
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part of the language drawing together.
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An individual social and family in
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one word or an object like a symbol of the cause of Christ.
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Now there in him were put into a drama
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which then act out human experience in him will
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really be in the same breath. But the minute speaks more broadly and
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in terms of human action. Now.
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Through naging out of the mess because
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they think it's purely subjective and I think the mistake.
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Surely it's clear that the poor of our own women lie.
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But at the same time the main objective in that it represents
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a way of life that we have to deal with in a real world. I've
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been reading a lot of things along the line of mine.
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And I had a delightful time the first time I ever read the creed. I don't know if you've read the
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Creed and the nature thing I believe. I look
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in the same period we feel that he can have really great
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Greek myth at the beginning of the
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road and what we talk about
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math during the classical period in
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ancient Greece you find very little and you find them you
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make or break in at the top of
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the thing you make a hole here but without any
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pride we know what we believe in and we know what we're fighting for and there is no struggle
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then with the like of the myth took place.
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The myth took care of the neurotic and
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normal and then the person in
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front will see in a moment to death.
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Now then there was a deterioration in civilization the great
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along in the second century of the globe with every kind of sacrifice
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Epicurean heathen if you read the literature
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that you see people all over the place
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and then the great poem
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to be the next upon the top of the man the myth and
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pinnacle of beauty because of the form.
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But your own emotion when you want to get political. And
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we would think when you're in love with somebody in
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the other they don't exist.
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I don't know what but he doesn't know. Now you have
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to call me because fire comes from life. That
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was the one that wrote the beginning of the thing
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down to turn to brain. There are NO NO GOD.
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And in doing so beautiful that
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love which is the other most
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of the demonic when they come with I gather and drank a
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drop.
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Didn't you look. This represents the myth of the empirical man. We're
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going to explain everything we don't have to have any that were any good with the
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earth and I don't believe it and never believe this
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about the guy but rather part of the human
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experience. We push the rock up
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and come down with that over again.
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We don't get to play. But in
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doing that. Going to incoming growing and
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returning for the normal man through the NG. Is that the
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method that can say that you're lighting
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that bad better than you do with what
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to bring new civilization to the
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guy who will be
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going to push that take it out of the net and have it mean to the person who
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dug up his pension that night.
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Doing good will to create and produce
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the mess were given to the Athenian.
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And I would like you to get picked
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the perfect grammar which occurred with the
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Will likely to be for the home.
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We won't quite do that but.
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Then it's anyway. When the Greek winter rheumy were
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about to be there and in the spring with the news
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everybody in Athens
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for the 30000 people that was.
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Crossed together for that between the two that their shoulders and
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shoulders and whenever a shadow it was by one of them the
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whole thirty thousand. But the
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moment of the drama was
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the office but the drama began early in the morning and went for three
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days. And of the drama and a great deal of
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music that was the point.
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And on the acting and the other
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we after the drama with the religion and the philosophy of the
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day he read me. There
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are bound to get there. And this work of art that then was communicated
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to.
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The whole the whole community
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rich man and
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well planned to let the present comfort those
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wonderful men that now
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then experience that one of which I want to talk to you about
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this when the communicating of a Mac that can
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help get
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the thing and the importance of the Bible very
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much. The
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people were so moved by the drama in Greece that Plato
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got worried and he thought they stir up too much of the irrational fear that
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he would grant them the most.
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This writing came shortly afterwards and
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I think that the drama really does to the fractious where the
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drama brings out the deep emotions of terror and
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integrate them into an emotion or
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harmony. Now the example the drama played out with the down of a
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man that woman killed her husband then you know this is
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not good for the path that maybe a woman killed her children.
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And Plato couldn't but he played it was very much.
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Well I think it would be sort of a place where
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he was a very spiritual man. He hadn't had any votes that he couldn't.
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Separate himself and even I don't think that's really what I think at all
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but. I don't think that's really what went on but I think now
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recall either with his or epic collapse of Asia Minor was
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threatened in the stuff with irrational tendencies within him
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that he controlled by his own that
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scared him.
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Now when are
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you going to put on me to draw
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and I could do that and then
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had for the Greeks in the Big Foot the still have
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and for
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learning well that people who know
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that when the woman killed her children that they were black
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and bad and only went in there that terrible
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and term battering the fathers and the.
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By Oedipus and the
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evil now of the damage that is every play
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there is nothing to be ashamed of
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one of you were telling me about the
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fact that you know you don't
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have the guilty party. This is what was coming out of a question
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that I don't have one of the things that you have the
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universal everybody. You don't need to
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be perfect. Well maybe perhaps but even if you don't need to be
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your depression I don't remind me of
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some of the things we are now doing in Russia.
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Think of the rainy Repton idea either
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because he thinks we're all going
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through and a lot of the students who come to him
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come to him with the feeling and the reason they're
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anxious that they think they have met them
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drive enough to get a frantic and just barely controlling it and I
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think he's right that most people who do feel that there are that many
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do that them because of frantic in the office if you can you can act crazy without
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being. You can bring anything you can
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tell how you hate your wife or your mother or your children and it didn't mean you have to do it
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now this is what the Greek dead to their normal means of drama. I could see
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somebody else in the Oedipus killing a father and I'm grown I
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could have a look you reckon
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with this that this is in there that mean I am
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outside the human payoff because I have experienced.
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Them. The men
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and women. When and when you have men in there
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and grab what you don't have in a society where the men have gone to hell if
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they haven't we no longer have any. Then you have
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to at the end of the Greek period to the end of the medieval period. And it's true it
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in our period the end of the beginning.
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And fairer than that we could be
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right in the end and the health
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struggle with the idea of
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a period in which human beings because of
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certain developments in the culture could they handle their
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pollution. The mood here including the thing and the
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philosophy in the part of the prayer that
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he went back to the Greek and the core
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psychological problems I think he misinterpreted the editor
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and not about one another.
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The butt of many who and what you rock all the way through
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this I must find where I was born and then
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the next thing they describe what happened to be
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things that happened to
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the show
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or portray the
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emotion of Martin went back to a degree
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that rewrote the story of a
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couple of minutes when
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doing in
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a drama free to
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the net to call the one of the I
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think the best thing to regret
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is the struggle of the human
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individual trying his place in the world.
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Quite poor one I think and I
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think the myth of the creative and I think more
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by the method in which to me is a very impoverished
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method. You don't need it and then everything to be broken
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pipes are in Washington and that's where it can be handled by
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whether pragmatically work there that we do not
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have. You
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have to learn the separation from his own
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reality. The really good
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and I don't know what
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the dram of that or the lack of
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communication.
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The real
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question is that important
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and terribly important to you when you're gripped by that
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great
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group. If you get
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out of the norm
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then in a world where there are other people
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who have hope. I left
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the group empathy in New York and things
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were happening very event.
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Going on with this human
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being living in the four
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women who were. In Struthers and who are you and we
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can know each other for the very language has temporarily
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gone Pinker example.
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When I meet
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a very polite kind and it turns
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up a book and a couple of other book and back in
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it and then they talk a little more and discover the book
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and then it.
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For there it is going to live at the moment and
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hide it in the attic and.
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Neither have the three that you do.
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Have to make but a new rabbit
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and the thing that the picture in the American life
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to go and then the struggle
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that surprising of it because here we have people married 20 30
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and we have an
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authentic experience and then the human world
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under there we go
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through we can find the cure.
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They were.
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Taken up with the
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magnet with
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the weapon and the
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light coming home
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and the mother.
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