Contemporary revolution in Latin America Agrarian revolution

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The following program is produced by the University of Florida's school of journalism and
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communications under a grant from the National Educational Television and Radio Center
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in cooperation with the National Association of educational broadcasters.
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Small countries have an urgent problem for land reform especially in
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certain countries like my own where we have a million and I have
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Indians packed in they have in the Highlands and who have only
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about three or four hectares. Perhaps less than that bare
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head of family and with the driver of the land.
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Speaking of the peasants we mustn't forget the aspirations of these millions
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of them that want to feel that they own something and
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land is something which is valuable. Money isn't so important
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to them but if they can say this land is mine they are much
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happier man.
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The University of Florida presents the Agrarian Revolution the second in a weekly
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series of recorded documentary reports on the contemporary revolution in
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Latin America. Your reporter is the distinguished American journalist
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and editor of The Christian Science Monitor.
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Oh Wendy you can't.
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Cry of the world's masses land reform is not new. The
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slogan land for the landless dates back at least 30 centuries in
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Roman times. Talk told us how the grokking attempted a social reform based
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on a more equal distribution of land. Similarly the desire for agrarian reform in
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Latin America is no recent development grammarian reform was the
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rallying point of the Mexican Revolution by expropriating and
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redistributing the land. Mexican economists point out Mexico was able to achieve
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economic freedom and social equality for her people. The Mexican revolution
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began in one thousand ten. Lender form then has been a goal in Latin
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America for over a half century. What happens when this you're running for
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land is through it. Cuba is a case in point. In
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1950 a prominent sociologist delivered a paper at the University of Florida's first
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conference on the Caribbean summing up Dr. Lowery notes and said the Grand
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paradox of Cuba is the potential food fullness of the land and the
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poverty of people who work upon it. Yet in 1959 North
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Americans were astonished when Fidel Castro and his followers brought about a drastic social
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revolution. Now self-described as a socialist revolution
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in the communist sense. The fact is the cornerstone of Castro's
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revolution was land reform. The most dramatic indicator of the need for land
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reform in Latin America is the high concentration of ownership. Too few people
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simply own too much of the land.
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Venezuela for example has a tremendous
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concentration of land ownership. A Columbia University sociologist
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Clarence Sr. supplies some statistics 3 percent of
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all of the land owners of Venezuela own 90 percent of
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the land. In Chile the situation isn't quite as bad
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but it's bad enough 2 percent of the land owners own
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52 percent of all of the farmland and the situation is
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just about the same in Brazil where 2 percent of the people own
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half of the land of Brazil.
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Many Latin Americans as well as North American observers believe if there is one step
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necessary to the continued development of Latin America from a feudal society to a
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community of industrial powers that step is successful agrarian
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reform. At the nub of the Agrarian Reform problem is the feudal
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institution known as the hacienda the Lodge a state or plantation. The system is
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very close to the one described in the history of medieval Europe. The landowner of the
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feudal lord is usually an absentee owner who generally gets his
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status and prestige from the mere ownership of land. These are states I worked
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by peasants who by circumstances I literally bound to the land
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they were born there many times and either cannot or cannot believe. Before the
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revolution in Bolivia an advertisement appeared in a prominent newspaper in La Paz
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haciendo located on the main highway a short drive from the Bolivian capital was offered for
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sale. I see and it was described as having five hundred acres of land fifty
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sheep much water and twenty peons. We
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asked Dr. Raymond the research professor of geography at the University of Florida to brief us on the
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historical and geographical background of land tenure in Latin America.
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The Spaniards when they came found Indo
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or Indian civilizations that had already evolved
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their land tenure systems and those were based around
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village holdings. They Spaniards themselves in
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many cases swept these aside or superimposed on
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these groups from in the in the higher mountain
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areas between Mexico and northern Argentina their own
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minority or feudal systems of great land of the
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states. These have in the course of time exerted a
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kind of dead hand influence on the economies of
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these countries. In many instances. Furthermore in relatively
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recent times there has been a development of
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the plantation economy in both.
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In both cases the systems of the plantation system and
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the US into system have been super imposed or
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pushed aside the original Indians and
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their holdings. This has brought about in so
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many instances cases in which the rights of property have been
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so far extended that millions of people have been
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without land without enough to live on and with the result
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that in the course of time they have demanded what they
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think is an inalienable right namely the right to land which they can
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cultivate and get the food they want to hand in hand with the problem of the
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ownership of too much land is the ownership of too little.
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The urgency for redistribution of land as well as the myth of the redistribution
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depends on the particular country in Latin America that we're talking about at the time. This is the view of
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the former ambassador to the United Nations from Guatemala Garcia Granados
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for instance.
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The large countries of South America in
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Brazil are not in Nogent need of land reform. They have
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plenty of land still left that can be acquired by immigrant.
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What the problem is my problem of population than land reform
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on the other side. Small countries have an urgent problem of land reform.
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Especially in certain countries like my own where we have a million
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and I have Indians packed in they have in the Highlands and who have
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only about three or four have DOS. Perhaps
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less than that. Better head of family and with the driver of that then our no
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more lands in the Highlands than normal states. So we have to open
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up new lands for them wherever we can do it and especially
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the difficulty is that we have to give an
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incentive to the Indians to work to lower lands because they are accustomed to live in the Highlands.
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So land reform depends upon the country and it also depends upon the section of a
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particular country as well as a particular type of agriculture desired cattle
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raising by necessity uses much larger tracts of land than say raising coffee.
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Columbia does both. And Colombia has been writing a land reform law now
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before its legislature. When he was Minister of Agriculture Orlando followers were
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helped to draft recommendations for this law. We put a question to him. How do you go
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about writing a good land reform law that will cover the various regional
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differences in land and crop.
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We have a lot of including more the more general point
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should include you know all of these and you have ample
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authority to the entity to implement
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the law. To make these region no
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qualifications or adjustments and the law now in Congress
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in Congress is complete so I can use it
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to perform.
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No the problem appears to be not in writing a land reform
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but in getting it passed in the national legislature. Where in most cases the landowners also
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hold the political power.
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Professor Emeritus Frank Tannenbaum of Columbia University has written that the hacienda
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has no built in device that will allow for reform of the system. He points out
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that in two countries where the hacienda has been repudiated Mexico and Bolivia it
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was by revolution could be added to this list.
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A professor of economics at the University of Mississippi Pedro Teicher put it this
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way.
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It's just a problem. It's very difficult because the the ruling
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class has been the land holding class and Latin America and to
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and to bring about land reform would mean to bring about a fundamental
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change social change and the landholding class is
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not going to give in easily since that would mean they would lose political power if there
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are a few passed tax laws to tax the agricultural people if they are in the
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control of the government they're not going to pass laws to tax themselves. So it is
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almost required that you have a social upheaval
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to dislodge the landholding class take away the
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political power from them then then you can have a land reform. But
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even in a country even Argentina with all the power Peron had he did not touch
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that line of thought.
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Florida's junior senator George Smathers disagrees with Dr tite. The senator has
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always had a keen interest in Latin America has traveled extensively particularly in the countries of Central
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America and the Caribbean. Here's what he has to say in response to the view that
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revolution is necessary to bring about agrarian reform.
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I would say that the Del Castro revolution
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and the Communist takeover there in Cuba has been
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alerted. And I roused and wakened most people of
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Latin America to the need that is the so called privileged class who we all agree
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up to this point have not done enough for their own countries they have taken a lot out of it and given very little
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back. I think they are now awakening to the fact that unless
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they themselves initiate certain
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governmental reforms and as they themselves start paying taxes and
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contributing to the upgrading of their schools their hospitals their
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roads. Then if they do not do something of this character they're
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then going to be thrown out and not only lose.
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Their lives and their fortunes but their country as well.
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Guatemala's Garcia Granados is another leader who believes in the chances of democratic
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evolution over the prospects of revolution.
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It all depends on the moment that is in power. If it is a government
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democratic government it has been elected and in its poem it
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is a sound before they can make it without
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going to violent measures.
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Sonia Garcia explains what he means by a sound land reform law.
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I would say that if it is sound. And by that
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rationale price for property and taxing those
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properties Howley those properties that our own until there is no
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social benefit from that land. Then they go home and they're right
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don't buy that but it is value. Just real value I mean by that
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land does not tilt. That is what has
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gotten not have the value of land that is called debated. So I don't
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think that there would be any difficulty by a government to carry out such a problem.
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So far in this program we have used the term land reform and agree and
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reform interchangeably. Is there a difference in meaning between them. We asked a
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research sociologist at the University of Florida Smith this question.
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Yes I myself very definitely prefer the term agrarian
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reform because whatever major
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endeavors really make along Lee's lines
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we are dealing with the relationship of man to man.
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Been in this relationship man is the he is the active
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element and land is the passive element. For this reason
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I prefer to refer to it as agrarian reform to stress the human element
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rather then land reform which stresses the passive element.
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Well under this definition what is the ultimate objective of agrarian reform.
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Well always when I'm in Latin America in this now for
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decades to die I have been working in with Latin American
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governments. I have always
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accepted and and followed a
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statement which was made one dime by the Brazilian commission on
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agrarian policy which indicated the fundamental.
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Objective of agrarian reform was the valorized zation
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of the ordinary rural man in Brazil meaning it
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to develop the human qualities when they are near a
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citizen royal citizen to the maximum list. This is the
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fundamental objective of agrarian reform.
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Smith explains the appeal of the demagogue to the landless masses in Latin America.
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The demagogue are nearly as Ian Klein. Do point
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to the fact there are there are
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rich productive lands
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frequently large amounts of them in the hands of a few proprietors.
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And very large numbers of workers and frequently voters
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with little or nothing in the way of landed property which he can
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use either saying are insinuating that you the
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voter ought to have a a part of this
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other man's estate. And matter of fact a great
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many people list about the only idea they have on the meaning of agrarian reform is
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simply to see the acreage is held in large estates and to
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divide them among only among the workers.
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The appeal of the demagogue who uses this approach is irresistible seems to be
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the landless masses in Latin America.
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Actually one of the bases of the strength Fidel Castro in
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Cuba is the fact that there was a tremendous concentration in a few
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hands of land ownership in Cuba. Once again
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Sr. and Castro has been able to get a
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tremendous following from the landless peasants of Cuba
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because he has been distributing land. Now somebody
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may say of course he is distributing land in such a way that the workers
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land workers may not get the land and I would agree entirely
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with this criticism. On the other hand nobody else
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has helped the Cuban peasants and this man Mad Men.
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And though he may be has offered and is
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delivering land to the peasants Castro agents and
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hundreds of so-called Soviet and Chinese Communist technicians have been stepping up efforts
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to export Castro style revolutions throughout the rest of Latin America.
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This threat from Cuba has had the positive effect of helping to wake up a few of the
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landowners to the urgent need of land reform now. So in Peru
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we see premier Pedro Beltran a member of one of the 25 families who control most
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of the land seeking to convince his fellow landowners that now is the time to
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act. The alternatives are to begin minor reforms immediately or
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face the prospect of being wiped out as landowners in a Castro type revolution.
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But in general the landowners in Latin America seem reluctant to act
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to do it no honest about it can three.
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I'm not frightened of these guys in motion.
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Brazilian now listening to a Labor Party leader who serves in Brazil's chamber of
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deputies as well though.
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Lim Das I met is in Brazil who is meant to grow swindling ice
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where he's constantly in
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my own bed in some part of the country and dad from which I
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come and they stated I represent he in the house. When
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did this these guys a revolution has got a lot of sympathy
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among the peasants.
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And then of course the landowners sometimes
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frighten their propaganda has a new notion you know
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in that bottle to leave as head of the National publishing of Brazil
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responsible Latin American leaders are worried about what may happen if agrarian reform
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laws are not passed and put into operation soon in Bogota Dr Orlando
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follows Burra wondered aloud what might take place if the land reform law which was
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then before Congress failed to pass.
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I think we have any unfortunate situation because
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most farmers and most Colombians have high
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expectations about the passing of this long he would be a definite
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outcome of the social revolution could happen perhaps worse
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on the campus of the University of Florida.
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The debate goes on over land reform which way evolution all revolution
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with students from 18 Latin American countries in attendance. It's not unusual to hear very
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frank discussions on this subject. We listen in on a bull session with Latin
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American students.
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Well the point wonder is you know seems to be whether it's convenient to go
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into a radical. Fast land reform in
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Latin American countries or go are a low rate of speed.
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I would have to wait to see some changes crystallize
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and if they're going to be effective as a whole it will be affected will
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depend say the government and their and their people and their education too.
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That's a that's an important point to education and you can't educate a man in a
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period of six or seven months. You can't change his whole way of looking at the
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earth and try and change a psychological relationship
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between his relationship to the government and his relationship as a
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free landowner and his relationship to the landlord. You are literally one way
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of learning how to play piano. Start playing where you have your ways but you're
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ready go away you can do the radical way and I think has brought in Guatemala
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very very effectively and so the debate continues well on
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into the night evolution or revolution.
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We've invited Dr. horse a buckeroo professor of economics at the Catholic
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University of Quito Ecuador to outline what he feels to be an intelligent
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workable program for Latin America in my opinion all the
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time is ripe to take action regarding a well planed we'll
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find agrarian reform in Latin America.
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And then must be read distributed not only because people need to
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find a place of their own but also because their development
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our production requires a land distribution to avoid
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both. Let the phone deal which leaves large plots of land
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uncultivated as well as mini fondue. Also on
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advisable for the reduction of land area add to units too small
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is economically on sound. In the agrarian reform must be
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well planed to cover our irrigation better agricultural
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methods diversified production etc. and well-financed
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in order to compensate the legitimate prize of expropriation
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not confiscation without scaring away either national or
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international investments. And to give the new owners a
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good start to make their enterprises a success. Good agrarian
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reform cannot be made without the whole hearted approval of the great
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majorities and without good faith and technical know how.
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To conclude our program we have invited members of the Graduate faculty the University of Florida's school of it
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are American studies to summarize what we have heard so far and if they will try to come to some definite
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conclusions about the agrarian revolution. The panelists Dr. Robert
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W. Bradbury professor of economics Dr. Raymond E. Crist research professor of geography who
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we've heard earlier in the program and A.S. Moore professor in the College of Agriculture.
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Len reform is needed in Latin America because today
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we need more agricultural production. And the system of land
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use in Latin America in the past will not satisfy
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the need of today because the US the ENDA
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system live you might say for itself it produced what was
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needed on that large estate for the people who live there. But it
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did not produce food to be used in the cities
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which are developing at such a fast rate. And you cannot have
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large populations in cities unless you have large amounts of food
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to feed them.
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There is one thing that is hopeful in Latin America and that is that
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under our point four we have been giving technical assistance to
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try to develop a more modern market oriented
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agriculture. This is very important because we know that
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since 1945 in other words in my speech 15 years in a good many
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countries the population has grown more rapidly than I recall for
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production in other words the agriculture production per capita is less today than it was in
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1945 and yet if we can train
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these Latin Americans in better methods of agriculture
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evolution may bring about a reform rather
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than revolution.
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One of the important things I can't help thinking in this connection that one of the important
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activities that should be carried out all over Latin America is a
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land survey there should be a land survey instituted so that
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the people of the country itself knew how much. Land how much
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national land it has so that people could figure out how much
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land large landlords have. I might say that in many countries
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this survey has been opposed because the landlords who themselves have been the
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government to a large extent are not interested in having it known how much land
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they have.
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I think one of the reforms that is taking place for taking
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place very very slowly is an imposition of land
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taxes. Historically land in Latin America has been
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taxed at a very very low rate and this has made it
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possible to do as you say of producing only on one third or one quarter
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of your land holdings. The imposition of heavier land taxes
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would force more of this idle land into productive use.
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Precisely. But if those who own the life and are the
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ones in the government they are not going to get too
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energetic about imposing taxes on their own property. That's that's one of the
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difficulties.
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Yes it is and that is of course one of the hopeful signs of the emergence of a middle class.
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Because when the middle class gets political power it is apt
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to bring about this reform in a peaceful
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manner through taxation rather than the violent overthrow of the
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whole system by the lower class the peasants
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demanding they break up the largest Yes and who have nothing to lose and
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everything to gain.
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Speaking of the peasants we must not forget the aspirations of these millions
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of them that want to feel that they own something and
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land is something which is valuable. Money isn't so important
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to them but if they can say this land is mine they are a much
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happier man.
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Thank you for the past half hour we've been reporting on the Agrarian Revolution
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Part of the contemporary revolution in Latin America.
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Is the second in a series of weekly documentary reports on the contemporary
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revolution. The program was narrated by the
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distinguished American journalist and editor of The Christian Science Monitor
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in cooperation with the University of Florida.
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